Changes between Version 15 and Version 16 of WO1_Pappus_1660

Timestamp:

Feb 2, 2009, 4:49:01 PM (15 years ago)

Author:

Wolfgang Schmidle

Comment:

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WO1_Pappus_1660

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 == 3.  Analysis of the Result ==
 
-=== Findings ===
-
-<001> occurs six times and seems to be simply a badly printed {ou}, as in "ἠγ<001>μέν{ου}" (where, by the way, they got the breathing wrong because it is already wrong in the original.)
+=== Findings in the work sample ===
+
+[http://echo.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/ECHOdocuView/ECHOzogiLib?pn=20&ws=1&wx=0.2444&wy=0.3617&ww=0.7244&wh=0.2852&mode=imagepath&url=%2Fmpiwg%2Fonline%2Fpermanent%2Flibrary%2FA0VHBVNN%2Fpageimg p.20]
+
+In general, the results with Greek text are not so bad. Basically, I looked at paragraphs A to G on p.20 (i.e. <pb 4>), which is admittedly only a very small sample. Starting around C, the results become actually quite good.
+
+Anchored comments again. The do not see that the marginal notes are the anchors of the comments. Not much we can do. The ] is sometimes typed as ] and sometimes as tau, even though it is printed well. No special instruction at the moment. And a reference to the special instruction for Conimbricensis would make things even more confusing, I guess.
+
+A:
+stigma is typed as end-sigma and not resolved to {sigma tau}.
+Combinations of breathings and accents still do not work well. Single breathings or accents have a better chance of being correct.
+
+B:
+The typesetter seems to stick to the convention that the accent should be above the first letter of a diphthong. The Chinese copy it faithfully. As "omikron tilde" is not allowed, they resort to \~omikron. I cannot decide (yet) whether this is really a convention of whether the typesetter is just careless. Sometimes the accent is on the sencond letter.
+The resolve λλ silently. This is of course against the rules, but it makes sense.
+An example where he is definitely careless: ἁπό. They copy it faithfully.
+well-printed {αῖ} becomes {αἱ}.
+α'πὸ becomes the correct ἀπὸ! And they do this correction regularly.
+πα ὰλληλοι: makes sense, somehow
+Apparently it is difficult to jump from Latin to Greek and back. Inbetween Greek characters, they forget to mark & _c._ as italics. Not too much of a problem, though.
+
+C:
+ὃν ἕχ{ει} (wrong but clearly readable) becomes ὅν ἓχ{ει}.
+stigma again.
+iota becomes tau once.
+But in general it becomes surprisingly correct, even the accents and breathings and combinations of accents and breathings.
+
+D:
+They do not recognize omikron + spiritus asper + cirkumflex, probably because the circumflex becomes a half-circle ("cap"?) --> unknown character.
+A line break where obviously there shouldn't be one. Does that count as typo?
+] as tau.
+
+E:
+] as tau.
+stigma.
+
+F:
+] as tau.
+they use @@ sensibly.
+μολογόυμ ενον: there is just no space in the text.
+
+G:
+] as tau.
+
+Non-Greek issues
+
+They forget the <pb> in the preface, but type it correctly as soon as there are page numbers. Annoying, but I guess we shouldn't mention it.
+
+<pb 2>: "small caps disaster": they mark every line (such as "A B") as small caps, and they're right. We can change <sc> to <var> afterwards. Problem: if one of the letters is a Greek character, they mark only the Latin part (and again, they're right). In other words, they refuse to see the obvious structure.
+--> additional rule or post-processing?
+
+<pb 2>: Apparently, fractions are difficult. They mark them correctly, but sometimes forget the digit before the fraction, so e.g. 2.25 becomes 0.25. When a digit is just unintelligible, they still make a guess without using <?>. 
+
+===  Analysis of the unknown characters ===
+
+<001> occurs six times and seems to be simply a badly printed {ou}, as in "ἠγ<001>μέν{ου}" (where, by the way, they got the breathing wrong because it is already wrong in the original.) 
 
 <002> is not clear to me. It occurs twice, once in "Græcus codex habet. δ{ει} γαρ & c. <002> τῆς ζη {πρ}ὸς η δ ego legendum puto {τὸν} τῆς δ η {πρ}ὸς η κ". The second time it doesn't look like the first <002>, but is optically as well as contextually clearly recognizeable as {tais}: "ἐν <002> συζυγῖαις". 
 
-Some random samples (line numbers added):
+
+=== Findings in the complete text ===
+
+Some random samples (line numbers added) after the text had been completed:
 
 [http://echo.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/ECHOdocuView/ECHOzogiLib?pn=37&ws=1&wx=0.0258&wy=0.1388&ww=0.7586&wh=0.1189&mode=imagepath&url=%2Fmpiwg%2Fonline%2Fpermanent%2Flibrary%2FA0VHBVNN%2Fpageimg p.37]  (part of the work sample)
@@ -56 +112 @@
 }}}
 
-1: χαί, συναμφοτέραυ: unnecessary typos.
+1: χαί, συναμφοτέραυ: unnecessary typos. How could this survive double-keying and comparing?
 
 2: ἔςιν: The general problem of telling sigma and stigma apart without using positional rules. Can be solved during post-processing.